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I know some reps who'd sleep with doctors just to get their drug prescribed.........

"As a rep, when you visit a doctor, you can't force them to sign on a dotted line that says, 'I, Dr X, promise to prescribe your drug and no one else's.' Why would he or she prescribe your drug when there's a cheaper, identical, but non-branded, version available? So you use every other tool at your disposal to persuade them - flattery, flirting, trips, expensive dinners. I used to come away some days feeling like an escort. I'm not saying I was expected to have sex with GPs, but I know some reps who'd sleep with doctors just to get their drug prescribed.

"I think everyone is aware of the ABPI codes, but even if we did take notice of them, there were always ways of getting round them. We used to set up mock conferences, college reunions, or pay for doctors to go to the States for a conference, but really it was just a holiday. I always hit my targets, but it made me feel grubby and cynical about GPs. But a lot of GPs will either not see reps at all, or will take them with a pinch of salt. These were always the ones I preferred.

"The GP I see now as a patient doesn't see reps at all. I made sure of that before I joined the surgery. As someone who used to be a rep, I find that reassuring

you have succeeded in is creating a load of marketing bullshit..........

"I'm a student from West London, working on placement with a Pharma Giant. Rather than publishing missinformed websites and stereotyping hundreds of thousands of decent people into one "evil-pharma" box I decided to see the realities for myself. I am yet to meet a "for-profit" person who is more driven by money than human welfare. Your comments are insulting, deeply missguided and rarely contain any real facts. All you have succeeded in is creating a load of marketing bullshit. It's easy to knock a faceless organisation but there are many thousands of people giving their all to make things better, perhaps you should work with them not against them."

Confessions of a Poacher turned Gamekeeper........................

When I was young and naïve and straight out of college I thought that the Pharmaceutical industry was admirable almost altruistic (sad I know but true and we are going back almost 20 years). So I went to work in a Pharmaceutical company in Regulatory Affairs (this is the department in most companies that amongst other things is responsible for collating all of the relevant research information for submission to the Medicines and Healthcare products Regulatory Authority to be able market their products). The companies I worked for over the 6 years I worked in the industry were relatively small so my role got me involved in a number of things including how products were formulated, how they were manufactured, how clinical trials were designed and carried out, labelling and artwork (all controlled by regulations) and inevitably marketing. As my experience grew I also got involved in developing marketing strategies and training reps.

What did I learn?

(Before I candidly confess I must just say

First, I left the industry over 12 years ago so what I’m about to say may not be relevant – although a piece of research I did recently suggests that what I learnt hasn’t changed much Second, that none of the companies I worked for exist any longer so it would be difficult to prove what I’m about to say and may not be applicable to any current company – on the other hand as most companies don’t necessarily publish everything they do its very hard to say that it doesn’t!!!!)

I learnt that the key to the Pharmaceutical Industry’s success is control over information

I also learnt that strategic marketing can make all the difference – a good plan of action is essential – by pin pointing strategically the opinion leaders in secondary care (usually Consultants) you can have an impact on the prescribing of up to 150 GP’s (or more if it is a teaching hospital) and if you offer a product at a ridiculously low cost to Hospitals but charge a premium in primary care you can make a huge difference to your profits.

The key point for companies is increase the market share – your competitors gain but so will you … ”penetration of new drugs is greater than gap perceived.” MacGavock et al BMJ Aug 93 and also …“success depends more on creative marketing than innovative research” Ill-advised rep from a pharma company

I also learnt having been involved in a couple of drug withdrawals that - today’s wonder drug is tomorrow’s problem.

Last but not least I learnt cynicism – no matter how much “idealism” there maybe in individuals in the pharma industry and no matter how companies tell you their researchers are altruistic and on a mission to “save lives” – “companies” are there to make a profit and individuals research/projects will only be taken up if it is likely to be profitable. (Note the lack of investment in research for topical or rare diseases prevalent in third world nations and the desire of companies to medicalise certain conditions that they can treat symptomatically but not cure – after all there is no comparison in the profit gained in curing conditions compared to the profit in long-term treatment of symptoms)

How did I apply my learning?

Having worked for the Pharmaceutical Industry for 6 years I then went to work in a health authority – it was interesting how useful my previous experience was!

Generally I found GP’s rather more cynical and questioning than Consultants. However I was able to advise practices about

Personally I am committed to the principles of NFL and where possible don’t see reps or attend “sponsored” events. The difficulty working in the NHS at the moment is there is so little money for developing new ideas and providing education that we are becoming dependent on finding “other” money to finance these things. The key I believe, given completely turning our back on Pharma money or events/initiatives involving Pharma companies is not always possible in this new cash strapped world in which we live, is to ensure any dealings with the Pharma Industry are transparent and open – using the old legal adage slightly amended – being independent as well as being seen to be independent and that money is only accepted for non-promotional events.

It’s worth remembering - companies wouldn’t provide freebies, lunches and pay for conferences if they didn’t produce benefits in some shape or form – there really is no such thing as a free lunch!

Angry from Glasgow.........

I would be grateful if you could provide me with a comprehensive list of doctors who are members of your organisation, particularly in greater Glasgow and in Ayrshire. If they happen to be on my “target” list, I can then motivate to have their names removed…………….